5 Reasons It Doesn’t Make Sense to Tell People, “If you don’t like America, leave!”

I’ve been noticing lately a lot of people saying, “If you don’t like America, get the heeelllllll out!” Part of this could be due to the whole flag-stomping thing going around the internet. Clearly those walking on the flag wanted to elicit the very response they are getting.

I don’t think that stomping on the flag is a good political tactic, because I am interested in changing hearts and minds, not pissing people off and creating more tensions. But I have a huge problem with the whole, “If you don’t like it here, get out!” mentality.

First of all, I was born here. Just because some thugs in DC claim they own 2.8 million square miles between two oceans, taking up almost half of North America–one of only seven continents on Earth–does not mean it is my responsibility to leave if I don’t like the force they regularly use against me and my fellow human beings. Most people that tell others to “get out if they don’t like it here” also claim to believe in private property. So what they are saying, is that the government’s right to boss me around supersedes my right to simply live peacefully on a piece of land that I maintain as my home, without hurting anyone else.

Secondly, someone is going to turn that phrase around at some point. Examples: “Oh you don’t like taxes? Well it is our civic duty, so if you don’t want to pay for America, get out!” or “If you don’t like the President the people elected you can get out!” or “If you don’t like regulation from the EPA, FDA, or Department of Energy, why don’t you move to Somalia where there is no regulation?” Disagreeing with something, and even going to extremes in using free speech to get your point across, does not mean you have no business living anywhere from sea to shining sea.

Third, telling someone to leave sort of implies that there is somewhere to go. You are telling me I must choose between a few hundred governments, each using a varying degree of unjust force to rule? There is nowhere I can go and be left alone. Every piece of inhabitable land on Earth has been claimed by some coercive violent group who will force me to follow their arbitrary rules if I move there.

Fourth, for a long time, America stood for something good: free speech, free markets, life, liberty, and property. But now that it has gotten this bad, instead of trying to improve it, instead of pointing out what went wrong, I am supposed to leave because I disagree with whatever group? And as for disrespecting the flag, what happened to free speech? What happened to: “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend with my life your right to say it”? When you tell someone to leave because you think they have disrespected what America stands for, you are forgetting what America stood for: FREE SPEECH! I’m sorry, but a piece of cloth is not more important than actual freedom.

Fifth, you might be angry that I just called the flag a piece of cloth. You might claim it is not just the piece of cloth, but what it stands for that matters. You might bring up the countless people who have died, “for me” or “fighting for my freedom” or “protecting my rights”.

The other day I was at work, and a coworker thanked a woman for her service in the military. Her reply was priceless: “Well I get paid”. We all must do a cost benefit analysis, and in a dangerous profession, you need to weigh the risk with the reward.

If someone thinks 30 grand a year is worth it to risk their life killing whoever the American government decided needs to be killed this year, don’t drag me into it. It is already my (stolen) money being used to fund the destruction, don’t add insult to injury by telling me that I should be grateful.

Maybe during the Revolution the flag stood for freedom, or protecting us against foreign aggression. Hey, maybe even during the War of 1812. But if you haven’t noticed, our soldiers are not defending the homeland, or protecting the borders. They are in various foreign countries, and at this point, it is getting hard to keep track of which one’s did what.

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We are at war with Saudi Arabia for funding terrorists right? Oh wait no, they are our ally who we fund, and we are at war with Afghanistan for… having mountains to hide in? We’re at war with ISIS… or is it Syria? First we helped ISIS, now we don’t like them, yea that’s it! And then we are drone bombing anyone who might be a terrorist in any country, or if they attend the wrong wedding.

The ironic part to me is that many of the people most pissed off about the flag stomping, are people who claim to believe in the founding fathers and Constitutional government. Why are they more angered by the flag being disrespected than by the fact that what the flag stood for has been eviscerated by our government?

If the flag represented freedom of speech, freedom from oppression, life, liberty, and property, the meaning of the flag has long since died. If the flag reminded us that freedom cannot be traded for security, or that a standing army would erode our rights, or that the best government governs least, then the flag has no meaning, because these things have been forgotten.

The people stomping on the flag are not stomping on those ideals, they are stomping on a hollow shell that was desecrated long ago by our government. People apparently didn’t have the energy to tell the politicians, bureaucrats, and government agencies to “get the hell out” when THEY were symbolically stomping on the flag.

So if you want to tell someone to “get out”, tell it to the people in government who ruined America. Don’t tell it to the people are are trying to point out how bad it has gotten.


35 thoughts on “5 Reasons It Doesn’t Make Sense to Tell People, “If you don’t like America, leave!”

  1. Great piece I’ll be sharing this. I always tell people who say “if you don’t like government move to Somalia” to move to North Korea if they like government intervention so much.

  2. Not to make it about “me” but #3 is always my point when trying to explain my revulsion/acceptance towards some sort of “government”. It’s human nature! The reason why the USA has been as successful as it has been thus far is they put up a strong barrier to this inclination of one group taking control of another as an initial premise. I think it’s a mistake to assume otherwise and the freedom lovers need to create boundaries. Great post

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  4. joe,
    I note that the various police forces in our country are, essentially, a standing army that does more to abrogate our freedoms and violate the bill of rights than the military. They kill an average of slightly more than three Americans a day and commonly violate the constitution which they see as something that gets in the way of police work.

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  6. If you think your money is being stolen and that the country is bad, then why don’t you leave? America won’t be worse for not having an oversensitive prick like you around.

    • This article actually explains why, can you read? In addition, it now costs $4000 to renounce citizenship. Oh and there is nowhere on earth that a gov wont steal my money. Did i hurtnyour feels criticizing your captor? You’re a good house slave, arent you? Sorry for disrespecting your master, but i actually think instead of accepting what is shoved down my throat.

      • I’m confused, so do you believe we shouldn’t have a military? Are you so naive to think our military does nothing to keep us safe. Even if they are not literally protecting us at the moment they protect us merely from existing and they do it for crappy pay. I agree with a lot of things you say in the article and yes government steals from us in many ways. But to insult are military the men and women who if need be would put their lives on the line to protect us in an instant? Sometimes i’d wish you people would get to see an America with no government or military it would be in flames. Crime would fill the streets and foreign invaders would have their way with us. And then and only then would scumbags like you realize how important and how respected they should be. Listen the government has there flaws some big flaws and we need to fix them but like you said all governments do so how about you stop complaining about how the government is stealing from you and don’t be such an asshole and respect you military you ungrateful fucking little shit. And you saying you can’t leave because there is nowhere to go because everywhere has flawed governments and you just want to be left alone reminds me of a very famous quote. “What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.” Go be a monk then you’ll have no problems. Oh wait but i bet you want your internet and your tv and your car and all the luxuries that life in America has to offer. You will never truly be alone in America but I mean your not and as long as you take from the government, the government will take from you simple as that. But monks don’t deal with stuff like that they just meditate in the mountains they don’t need these luxuries or money and they are left alone so go do that. Oh and the dollar is an American issued currency from the government you’d have no money without a government. Its not that there is nowhere to go its that you just want all the luxuries of life while also not being apart of any government and being left to yourself and thats just not the world we live in. It sounds like a paradise but paradise’s are usually to good to be true and thats just what that is.

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  8. Truth. I hate this saying. It’s like a parent complaining that the baby cried all night or the 13-year-old is back-talking and having someone say “Well, hell, then just ship her ass to the orphanage. I mean, what other option is there?”

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  10. The new flag now stands for consumerism and submitting to cruel authority without question. America was founded on the basis of changing what you believe to be unjust and unfair. I believe the government is unjust and controlled by the dollar, therefore I believe it must be changed. You wanna talk “unamerican”? You have your guns, your iPhone, your coffee, your material things and you let the brands you wear and the things you buy dictate how to live your life. Nobody is more American than the natives that rapist Columbus stole this land from. Therefore, if you want a government where nothing changes and all you can do is bitch and moan about things in secret because you’ll be killed instead of living in a country where it says on ancient parchment that the people are expected to change things they do not agree with, go live in North Korea or China or Vietnam or any other totalitarian country, because as sure as my blood is red, you are the farthest thing from American and spit in the face of the founding fathers who invite all humans to make a country based not on the color of their skin, but the color of their soul.

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